This is worse than the various seed that I happen to collect at work. It is worse than the seed of various species that I brought back from Oklahoma. These are seed that I purchased online and then misplaced . . . for a few years . . . or actually several years. Some were already old at the time, so are about a decade old now. There are leftovers from seed that were sown in 2010.
There was not much expense involved. Back then, they were even less expensive than they would be now. Those that I got a significant volume of were purchased mainly because they were so inexpensive. I figured I could find homes for the surplus that grew from them later. Most of the seed were purchased from eBay. Some were randomly collected for free from my job sites.
With few exceptions, these seed are not remarkably rare. Some are common within the regions from which they were obtained. Some are in small batches of only a few, while there are more than a hundred or a few hundred of others. There are seed for several palms, many yuccas, all but one of the North American firs, and all of the North American spruces. Not all are pictured.
Neither the expense nor the scarcity of these misplaced seed is a problem. What bothers me is that after so much effort to acquire them, and after so many others put the effort into sending them to me, and after the parent plants put their effort into producing all these seed, they were wasted. As I mentioned about the palm seed yesterday, few are likely viable after a decade.
Nonetheless, all will be sown. Even if none germinate, it will be more tolerable than discarding them without trying.
Tony, with all your knowledge, I know you must know how to test seeds for germination by “pre-sprouting” a few in a moist paper towel. You could try that with those that you have a lot of (as opposed to those you only have 20 of, say) to save yourself the time, space and potting mix. Just a thought.
Karla
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(most) Palm seed germinates so slowly that by the time I know if the seed are viable, it will be late spring, when the weather might be getting a bit warm to leave germinating seeds out in the nursery. Yucca germinates sooner, but because it prefers to germinate while the weather is still cool at night, I want to get an early start on it. Besides, even if only a few in a large batch are viable, I would want to germinate the entire batch for those few. Because I do not expect many to be viable, I will crowd them into only a few flats. Yucca is supposed to be viable for a very long time, but they do not mind being crowded either.
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I am currently trying to get some old seeds to germinate and I’m not having much luck.
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It is discouraging. Information is scarce about such matters, as if no one else has ever found old seed laying about. Most of what I find insists that ALL palm seeds MUST be sown within the year, which I know is not accurate.
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Hmmm, good idea to test, but you know that wheat found in Egyptian tombs sprouted, so if they haven’t been damp or hot, you probably will get something from them.
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I will sow them all regardless. Even if only a few in a big batch are viable it will be worth it. I really have no use for 100 sabal palms anyway.
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When I was active in gardening, I was able to get germination on seed several years old. I once read a study where seed germination from the pyramids of Egypt that produced plants. I keep flats that had no growth for a couple of years before discarding them. I once get excellent germination from a flat of a plant after a couple of years.
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I am rather confident that the yucca seed will still be viable. Those that are endemic to deserts can intentionally postpone germination for many years until the weather suits them.
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Hey, if 50,000 year old bacteria from Death Valley’s salt flats can be cultured I think there might be a chance with some of these seeds!
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There is a chance, and a rather good chance for some that are viable for several years. Not all of them are from 2010. Some are younger. However, they are not bacteria; and not all bacteria survives for 50,000 years.
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I buy all kinds of things and then forgot I had them, only to rediscover them after years. I do this with plants not so often, but make up for it by killing plants by putting them where they will not thrive.
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Plant are not so easy to misplace. They are not so easy to ignore when they are unhappy.
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Reblogged this on Tony Tomeo and commented:
Perhaps I should have shared updates on these seed. To be brief, I should have utilized bottom heat.
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